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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jul 18, 2012 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Wilco - 101

I've never heard them play, but rumour has it they are the best Jam Band currently playing. Can anyone point me to a fine show that I can torrent? There are over 150 shows at bt.etree

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 18, 2012 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

-I do not listen to 'Jam Bands'
-I will on occasion listen to Wilco
-Ergo, Wilco is not a 'Jam Band'

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

But was Television a "jam" band?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFn8NUicY4

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 18, 2012 4:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

oh, no sir ... Television was a band that jams ... far removed from what passes for a 'jam band', two very very different creatues

here's how the Australians jam

Kent Steedman Guitar God

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

Pretty damn cool - and I love the name: "The Celibate Rifles".

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Poster: dylan&theded Date: Jul 19, 2012 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

cannot wait for Monday in Brooklyn

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:15pm
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grateful dead?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

I don't consider Grateful Dead a jam band. I consider them a bunch of diverse eclectic musicians that incorporated a lot of freedom and improv in addition to the rest of their deep well of insluences and styles.

To me " jam" bands are bands with not much to say but wankering. Whether they have talent or not

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 18, 2012 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

exactly J, thanks for clarifying

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 18, 2012 4:17pm
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good point!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

If you want to dip your toe in the water, you can check out their roadcase to stream some shows the band considers worthy. I'll let JOTS chime in as to shows to torrent. Note that he may send you to Jay Bennett era shows but currently they are Nels Cline's backing band (sorry Mr. Tweedy).

http://wilcoworld.net/#!/roadcases/

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 2:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

You got it all wrong man, one of my favorite short lived era's was right after they gave Bennett the boot. But I'm a huge YHFT fan. For a long time Summer Teeth and YHFT were my favorite albums but it changes a lot. I'd put Sky Blue Sky way up there now and their new album is great too.

I realize your man crush on Nels and of course I love his playing but to me the reality is this is Tweedy's band. He writes the songs and I think that material has proven to stand up no matter who is in the band

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

I completely agree that it is Tweedy's band - but I like the fact this lineup has remained intact now for many tours and several releases. They are a lean, mean figthing machine - but it all comes down to Jeff as the main guy. I don't dispute that for a minute. Now tell our friend where to start....

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

btw the Warfield show you saw never did show up on Sugarmegs but It's on the Owl and Bear archive if you haven't already snagged it. Man you are going to have a KILLER time at the Greek. You're not driving back that night are you?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 4:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

No, we're planning to make it a saturday night at the greek and hotel after show without kid. that said, my daughter loves wilco and we took her to the warfield. she'll pitch a fit about the greek but so it goes....

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

good for you man! Have fun.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

I'm loving the lineup too. I was a little worried when they released the album Wilco that they had lost their edge in terms of new material but this last album restored my faith.

Heck where to start for torrents is too hard to say. I haven't downloaded anything in forever but it's all good to me I'd grab the most recent fastest one probably. Other than that I'd say the Feb 2008 Chicago shows are really worth getting because their goal was to play every song on every album ( not in order ). I don't think they really did but it made for the most diverse sets I've ever seen. Other than that I started when Being There came out and never looked back. I had heard about them with AM ( hadn't heard of U.T. until later and I'm not a big Farrar fan anyway )but didn't listen until their second album.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 18, 2012 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

I would never classify them as a jam band but they are certainly very good musicians. To me they are first and foremost songsmiths but not your boring singer songwriter variety, they have a ton of sonic depth.

Here's their archive with a bunch of good downloads. I highly recommend 10-29-02 and 10-5-01 as really good soundboards. Plus I'm a huge fan of the Yankee Hotel Fox era

http://www.owlandbear.com/wilco-archive/

You can stream stuff to listen to on Sugar Megs. I really dig the Riviera Theatre Chicago runs. They always bring out the big guns for setlists in Chicago. Check out out the Feb 2008 shows. The Red Rocks shows they just played June 2012 were really really good

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jul 18, 2012 6:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

10-29-02 and 10-5-01...ok, thank you! Sorry about my "Jam band" assumption. Think I'll also look into this Junes Red Rocks shows

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 19, 2012 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

Please do look into their current lineup. Nels Cline is a unique and exceptional guitarist.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 21, 2012 5:03pm
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So Cosmic Rasta, have you downloaded or listened to any yet? If you were expecting improv making them deserving the wrongly described best jam band label im thinking you'll be disappointed. Curious what you do think if youve listened yet.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 18, 2012 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

best jam band out there???? thats a stretch , no?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 18, 2012 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

I would not classify them as a "jam" band in the manner of say, phish, but as a live unit I've found them to be the most consistently enjoyable live act of the past decade and very similar to GD vibe amongst fans in knowing all words to tunes months before an official release and just a great communal vibe (but very different).

Critics need shorthand to describe things...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/wico-at-wolf-trap-huffpost_n_1679338.html

TOP 5 FOR TUESDAY, JULY 17

1. Wilco At Wolf Trap

America's best jam band (they are) and live act (arguably) head to the D.C. region for their annual summer pilgrimage. Hopefully Tweedy and Co. stick to the more experimental and driven sound of "Art of Almost," the first track on their newest "The Whole Love." 8 p.m., all ages, $35 to $45, also July 18

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 18, 2012 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wilco - 101

a great live act no doubt i find them more along the lines of a R.E.M. type of band ....but not a jam band !!!